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Charisma – Ep261


Dump stat or over-powered? Do you really need charisma and what can it be used for?


Cast – Dan, Eric, Jayson, Shawn, Brandi and Mike


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  1. Rick
    Rick April 13, 2016

    Is there a different face for different situations? You have a diplomatic face man, you have a negotiating face man, and you have a bar face man. Ideally all three would be the same guy, but your diplomat would suck in the bar.

  2. Matthew Malesky
    Matthew Malesky April 14, 2016

    Two examples of High Charisma characters with self-esteem issues could be Ric Flair and Randy Savage. On camera they were some of the most charismatic and memorable characters ever, but out of character, they had moments where they didn’t like the way they look, or hated their performance in a match.

  3. Millefune
    Millefune May 11, 2016

    I’m late to the party, since I only discovered the podcast a day or so ago, but I’m going back and listening over some of the older episodes. I listed to both the Charisma and Comliness episodes. Anyway, Charisma DOES have to do with Comliness/Appearance for many players. They made it so in 2nd Edition AD&D and D&D 3.X/Pathfinder.

    In 2nd Edition, they even split Charisma into Leadership and Appearance in the Skills & Powers book, because those are the two things that made up the total Charisma score. That’s also why the Charisma table had an “Initial Reacion Adjustment,” reflecting how people generally have an initially favorable reaction when they first see a good-looking person.

    In 3.X/Pathfinder, the Charisma score has the following in its descriptor: “Charisma measures a character’s personality, personal magnetism, ability to lead, and appearance.”

    They’ve removed the relation to appearance and looks from 5th edition’s entry on Charisma, but some people still haven’t adjusted to it. It may take some time, since “Charisma = Appearance and Likeability” has been around for 25-ish years.

    • Gamerstable
      Gamerstable May 11, 2016

      The separation of Charisma and Looks is a banner that Dan has been waving for years. We’ve tried using other stats, like comeliness, and home-rules to appease this. How physically attractive or unattractive used to matter more to us when we were younger. Now it’s more of a vector to mess with Brandi when she rolls bad.

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